Neptune for Astrologers

Finally, we come to a question of how “Neptunian” astrologers might be! Quite a number of years ago, before I wrote Dial Detective, and at the time had an ongoing weekly Uranian workshop in my home, we decided, for one class project, to test whether astrologers were really primarily Uranian (as most would prefer to think we are) or if the far less popular idea of Neptune was at least as prominent in our charts, or even more so. We gathered the charts of as many astrologers as we could find—a lot of them, but I don’t remember how many, nor can I find that research anymore. But I do distinctly remember that we found it was pretty much of a toss-up. There were just as many who had prominent Neptune as there were for Uranus. In this potential controversy, I can be quite neutral since I have both (Neptune closely conjunct Midheaven, while Uranus is closely opposite Sun and trine/sextile Midheaven.

In any case, to close this article I have recreated a semblance of that earlier research by rather randomly searching through AstroDataBank for professional astrologers with A or AA data. After I ‘d pulled 106 charts, I decided I’d procrastinated finishing this paper long enough, so I stopped and and tallied them. Following are my results:

• 18 Neptune closely conjunct an angle, Sun or Moon (-3°)
• 13 Uranus closely conjunct an angle, Sun or Moon
• 10 with both of the above (-3°)
• 20 with either Uranus or Neptune angular, but not conjunct, or conjunct Sun or Moon, but more than 3° Of the above, 11 are with Neptune; 8 with Uranusand 3 with both.

Of the other charts in my little study:

 

• 5 Neptune angular, but wider in orb
• 7 Uranus angular, but wider in orb
• 33 have no immediately noticeable close “hits” of major personal points to either Neptune or Uranus.

Then, curious, I went back to the pile of 33 and tried some of them on the 90° dial. Neptune or Uranus or both were strongly placed in every one of them! Here are illustrations of just a few of the 33 whose Uranus & Neptune “hits” were not quite so obvious without the dial:

 

Reinhold Ebertin showing Neptune picture:

Ebetin with pointer rotated to Uranus:


Friedrich Sieggruen, Note the Uranus/Neptune-Axis:


Udo Rudolph
Uranus is strong, though Neptune is not far off the Aries-Axis

And here is Udo's chart again;
pointer turned to midpoint Uranus/Appollon.
This chart is an excellent demonstration of planetary pictures specific to astrology:
Uranus + Apollon = Zeus and Kronos for leadership and authority,
and also connects the native to others (Ascendant) successfully (Mars/Jupiter).


Rob Hand:
Neptune is seen on the midpoint Midheaven/Ascendant


Elizabeth Tessier:
Sun is on the midpoint Uranus/Neptune

 
Sydney Omarr:
Omarr, whose career was notable in popular astrology,
has Midheaven precisel on Sun/Uranus

In conclusion: Uranus may be considered our profession’s “ruler,” but Neptune is an equal (or in many cases, the more dominant) indicator of who we are and what we do. So, let’s rise out of our “confusion” and learn to like the this God of the Sea with his pointy trident. He does have his postive attributes and potentials after all, and can be indicative of both strong talent in artistic and spiritual pursuits, with the power to inspire, to create and perhaps even to heal.
 

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References for this paper:

All of the dial charts shown were calculated with Nova Chart Wheels software by Astrolabe (www.alabe.com), then saved to jpg files (a function included within the software) for placement in my paper. Chartwheels is a program well worthwhile acquiring. It is a full-service astrology program, that more than any other I’ve tried, is especially effective in working with dial charts

All data used in this paper is Rodden-rated AA or A, and except for my own, I obtained all from AstroDatabank. It is a violation of AstroDatabank’s copyright to give full birth data for large lists, even with citation, so I have not indicated full data unless it is openly and currently published on www.astrodatabank in the Newsmaker list, or is a chart that I have obtained from a public source for which copyright is not at issue. All of the charts used in this article can be found in the huge database within AstroDatabank’s extremely useful software program–an invaluable research tool for any astrologer.

My italicized quotes of interpretive text came, specifically, from the Witte-Lefeldt Rules for Planetary Pictures by Ludwig Rudolph, a hardcover 5th Edition, 1959. (Despite my criticisms of Neptune interpretations in this book, and my advocacy of adding more uplifting alternative interpretations, “Rules” in an invaluable tool that I’d never want to be without!)

The one reference to Cosmobiology is from The Combination of Stellar Influences, Reinhold Ebertin, AFA 1988 printing.

Data/captions for jpgs, by order of Fig number:

1. Maria, Nov. 18, 1940, 8:01 am, Princeton, IL
2. Leonardo da Vinci, April 23, 1452
3. Salvador Dali, May 11, 1904, Figueras, Spain
4. Walt Disney, Dec. 5, 1901, Chicago, IL
5. Lucianno Pavarotti, Oct. 12, 1935, Modena, Itally
6. Leontyne Price, Feb. 10, 1927, Laurel, Mississippi
7. Wolfgang Mozart, January 27, 1756, Salzburg, Austria
8. Percy Bysshe Shelley, August 4, 1792, Horsham, England
9. Maya Angelou, April 4, 1928, St. Louis, MO
10. John Paul II, May 18, 1920, Wadowice, Poland
11. The Dali Lama, July 6, 1935, Tengster, Village, Tibet
12. Reinhold Ebertin, February 16, 1901, Gorlitz, Germany
    showing Neptune picture
13. Ebertin with pointer rotated to Uranus
14. Friedrich Sieggruen, December 20, 1877, Leubeck, Germany.
    Note the Uranus/Neptune midpoint
15. Udo Rudolph, December 14, 1921, Osterode, Germany.
    Uranus is strong, though Neptune is not far off the Aries axis
16. And here is Udo’s chart again; pointer turned to midpoint Uranus/Apollon
    This chart is an excellent demonstration of planetary pictures specific to astrology: Uranus + Apollon = Zeus and Kronos for leadership and authority, and also connects the native to others (Ascendant) successfully (Mars/Jupiter).
17. Rob Hand, December 5, 1942, Plainfield, NJ
    Neptune is seen on the midpoint Midheaven/Ascendant
18. Elizabeth Tessier, January 6, 1938, Alger, Algeria
    Sun is on the midpoint Uranus/Neptune
19. Sydney Omarr, August 5, 1926, Philadelphia, PA
    Omarr, whose career was notable in popular astrology, has Midheaven precisel on Sun/Uranus